TX200 HC power reduction?
Re: TX200 HC power reduction?
Looking into it with a torch should tell you, a generous squirt of degreaser will help to loosen the grip of old compacted grease etc.
TX200/Gary Cane/Sightron SIII 10-50x60
TX200/Gary Cane/Sightron SIII 10x42
TX200 test / analysis gun
TX200/Gary Cane/Sightron SIII 10x42
TX200 test / analysis gun
Re: TX200 HC power reduction?
finners wrote:Bosun,
You have checked that there are no 'spacing washers' at the base of the piston...? They are sometimes there, but are difficult to get out. Invert the piston and give a few sharp bangs of the latch rod end onto a piece of wood, so's not to damage the latch rod. It is very unusual for a standard spring to be producing 11.8 ft.lbs.
Finners.
Many thanks. I'll take a look there first. On previous AA springers, the pre-load washers have always been on the spring guide rod.
Air Arms ProSport 0.177 Walnut, MTC Mamba Lite 3-12x44
Air Arms TX200 HC 0.177 Walnut, MTC Mamba Lite 3-12x44
Weihrauch HW75 Pistol
Umarex Colt M1911A1 pellet Pistol
Umarex Beretta 92FS pellet Pistol
Swiss Arms P1911 BB Pistol
Air Arms TX200 HC 0.177 Walnut, MTC Mamba Lite 3-12x44
Weihrauch HW75 Pistol
Umarex Colt M1911A1 pellet Pistol
Umarex Beretta 92FS pellet Pistol
Swiss Arms P1911 BB Pistol
Re: TX200 HC power reduction?
Mmmm....... No washers in the piston, so I think I'll give "collapsing a coil" a try. I watched the videos and it seems pretty straightforward. However, there was no mention of re-tempering. OK, the collapsed coils will be fine, but what about the adjacent live coils?
Air Arms ProSport 0.177 Walnut, MTC Mamba Lite 3-12x44
Air Arms TX200 HC 0.177 Walnut, MTC Mamba Lite 3-12x44
Weihrauch HW75 Pistol
Umarex Colt M1911A1 pellet Pistol
Umarex Beretta 92FS pellet Pistol
Swiss Arms P1911 BB Pistol
Air Arms TX200 HC 0.177 Walnut, MTC Mamba Lite 3-12x44
Weihrauch HW75 Pistol
Umarex Colt M1911A1 pellet Pistol
Umarex Beretta 92FS pellet Pistol
Swiss Arms P1911 BB Pistol
Re: TX200 HC power reduction?
Dont worry about re tempering. Just heat up the end coil that you want to collapse. Collapse it and let it cool down in air. Job done.
Re: TX200 HC power reduction?
Just to add, you probably know anyway but, do it at the front (muzzle) end of the spring, less stress there.
TX200/Gary Cane/Sightron SIII 10-50x60
TX200/Gary Cane/Sightron SIII 10x42
TX200 test / analysis gun
TX200/Gary Cane/Sightron SIII 10x42
TX200 test / analysis gun
Re: TX200 HC power reduction?
Sake-san wrote:Just to add, you probably know anyway but, do it at the front (muzzle) end of the spring, less stress there.
Thanks for that. No I didn't know. But why should there be less stress at one end than the other?
Air Arms ProSport 0.177 Walnut, MTC Mamba Lite 3-12x44
Air Arms TX200 HC 0.177 Walnut, MTC Mamba Lite 3-12x44
Weihrauch HW75 Pistol
Umarex Colt M1911A1 pellet Pistol
Umarex Beretta 92FS pellet Pistol
Swiss Arms P1911 BB Pistol
Air Arms TX200 HC 0.177 Walnut, MTC Mamba Lite 3-12x44
Weihrauch HW75 Pistol
Umarex Colt M1911A1 pellet Pistol
Umarex Beretta 92FS pellet Pistol
Swiss Arms P1911 BB Pistol
Re: TX200 HC power reduction?
I know not the technicalities but, it was advice passed to me by two of the UK's pre-eminent tuners
Gary Martin understands engineering stuff, perhaps he will have an answer?

Gary Martin understands engineering stuff, perhaps he will have an answer?
TX200/Gary Cane/Sightron SIII 10-50x60
TX200/Gary Cane/Sightron SIII 10x42
TX200 test / analysis gun
TX200/Gary Cane/Sightron SIII 10x42
TX200 test / analysis gun
- gary martin
- Posts: 815
- Joined: Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:21 pm
Re: TX200 HC power reduction?
springs tend to fail at the rearmost coils. greater stress at this end. when trigger is released, the coils at the piston end open/destress first, then the coils behind start the process. the rear of the spring is forced toward rear guide, opposite/ reaction to the piston being forced forward. piston also trying to move forward whilst hitting compressed air, sending forces rearward, rear of spring gets a harder time due the the lag in coils opening whilst forces coming back up the spring when they are trying to destress/open.
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 85 guests