Does anyone know the correct twist rate for the Mpr-Ft (12ft/lb) model?
I haven't a cleaning rod to check because I use a pull-through to clean the barrel.
Plus the twist rate on the .177 S400f
Twist Rate
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Re: Twist Rate
I sent Air Arms an email asking the twist rates and got a reply saying the technical team advised not to disclose that information 

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Re: Twist Rate
Like rolls royce and bhp. “Its sufficient to do the job”
Lothar airgun blanks seem to be 1 in 18”
Quiz: in a 1 in 18 barrel what is the pellet rpm at the muzzle for 12 ft/lb in .22?
Lothar airgun blanks seem to be 1 in 18”
Quiz: in a 1 in 18 barrel what is the pellet rpm at the muzzle for 12 ft/lb in .22?
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Yes but turns out the Mpr Barrel is 1 in 17.7TenMetrePeter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:06 pmLike rolls royce and bhp. “Its sufficient to do the job”
Lothar airgun blanks seem to be 1 in 18”
Quiz: in a 1 in 18 barrel what is the pellet rpm at the muzzle for 12 ft/lb in .22?
Rpm depends on the velocity of the pellet Peter.
Just a quick guess i'd say if the pellet leaves the barrel at 800 fps then the rpm would be roughly 542 rpm
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Re: Twist Rate
I did the maths for .177
The .22 would be roughly 400 rpm
The .22 would be roughly 400 rpm
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Re: Twist Rate
Multiply that by 60!
800 * 60 * 12/17.7
= 32,542 rpm in .177
Roughly 24,000 rpm in .22
Bloody fast!
Its actually 1 in 450mm being bloody European, so yes 17.7inch, I was being lazy
800 * 60 * 12/17.7
= 32,542 rpm in .177
Roughly 24,000 rpm in .22
Bloody fast!
Its actually 1 in 450mm being bloody European, so yes 17.7inch, I was being lazy
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I'm European too but still use imperial measurement and metric.TenMetrePeter wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2019 10:03 pmMultiply that by 60!
800 * 60 * 12/17.7
= 32,542 rpm in .177
Roughly 24,000 rpm in .22
Bloody fast!
Its actually 1 in 450mm being bloody European, so yes 17.7inch, I was being lazy
My maths was way off.
Higher velocity requires higher weight to stabilise then.
But then length of the pellet comes into the equation too, it's a minefield!
Centre fire rifles must exceed 100,000 rpm.
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Re: Twist Rate
I was doing 12÷17.7 x 800 fps for the. 177 rpm
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Re: Twist Rate
You needed feet per minute. Everyone gets it wrong.
Length of pellet is only a factor in that a longer pellet is heavier therefore slower at 12ftlb
I don’t have the gyro formula for mass and angular velocity but I wouldn’t mind betting the faster spin has more stability.
Discuss.
(Can’t you sleep either?
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Length of pellet is only a factor in that a longer pellet is heavier therefore slower at 12ftlb
I don’t have the gyro formula for mass and angular velocity but I wouldn’t mind betting the faster spin has more stability.
Discuss.
(Can’t you sleep either?

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Re: Twist Rate
A HMR travels at 2150 + FPS with a 17 grain bullet.
A 223 will travel 3000 FPS with a 40 grain bullet.
Just in case you was board
Centre fire twist rates vary from 1in 8 to 1 in 12
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A 223 will travel 3000 FPS with a 40 grain bullet.
Just in case you was board

Centre fire twist rates vary from 1in 8 to 1 in 12
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