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What was that Lee Enfield derived silenced gun in the gunroom Pat?

What you saw today Steve was a very interesting piece of military history mate. The gun in question is what was known as a De Lyle carbine which were based on the Le Enfield (SMLE) action. Basically this gun was designed as an assassination weapon for use by Commandos. The gun was chambered in .45ACP and used sub sonic ammuntion. Invented for covert missions they dispatched many a German sentry.
The prototype weapon was originally built and chambered for 22lr. The second generation was chambered in 9mm but was woefully ineffective so this later saw the weapon chambered in 45 ACP.
I think there were only around 130 produced that saw active service so very very rare these days .
There was another silenced weapon of course that was extensively issued to Airmen during WW2 that being the Welrod pistol which was much more common than the De Lyle but obviously it had very limited range
ATB,
Pat

Here we go below!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Lisle_carbine

[quote="Katzenjammer"]What was that Lee Enfield derived silenced gun in the gunroom Pat?

What you saw today Steve was a very interesting piece of military history mate. The gun in question is what was known as a De Lyle carbine which were based on the Le Enfield (SMLE) action. Basically this gun was designed as an assassination weapon for use by Commandos. The gun was chambered in .45ACP and used sub sonic ammuntion. Invented for covert missions they dispatched many a German sentry.
The prototype weapon was originally built and chambered for 22lr. The second generation was chambered in 9mm but was woefully ineffective so this later saw the weapon chambered in 45 ACP.
I think there were only around 130 produced that saw active service so very very rare these days .
There was another silenced weapon of course that was extensively issued to Airmen during WW2 that being the Welrod pistol which was much more common than the De Lyle but obviously it had very limited range
ATB,
Pat

Here we go below!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Lisle_carbine

This is the very exact rifle here that you are referring too it is chamber in 45 ACP, as the 45,acp is easy to suppress as been Naturally sub sonic...

here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsUALdGog4U

This is the very exact rifle here that you are referring too it is chamber in 45 ACP, as the 45,acp is easy to suppress as been Naturally sub sonic...

here... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsUALdGog4U[/quote]
Absolutely utter tosh Zippy . A 45 ACP is not naturally subsonic Originally designed to launch a 230gr bullet the 45ACP has many bullet weights available. Once you go from around 200 grains and below the velocities rise. As an example a typical 185 SJHP round would probably touch between 1150 and 1200 fps depending of course on the powder of choice and available load data. A round becomes subsonic below 1050 feet per second. The 230 gr bullet was never the most accurate in 45ACP so lighter rounds were soon developed and used extensively by the military.
Believe me i used to load the stuff when i shot pistols and in fact the 45 ACP contributed to me suffering from Tinnitus to this day because of inferior ear protection on the day and shooting from within a Booth at Tyne Valley Gun Club!!! So its not a naturally sub sonic calibre
Trolling for information on the internet and you tube is no substitute for real experience as an FAC holder for 32 years matey
ATB,
Pat

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing Zippy No substitute for real experience.