Our country

[Brooksy]

Schools, NHS and other services collapse? Another good excuse to privatise maybe.
They privatised the railways and made it look efficient while it actually costs 10 times more to run, but that figure is hidden.

[Blackbaronfish]

Winston Churchill said this about Europe and I think he hit the nail.

"We have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not combined. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea.”

He died in 1965 the year I was born...50 years ago. Certainly a told you so moment.

BBF

[eboswan]

Broken citizens are easier too control than free thinking ones.
The more shite we are feed the harder it is too trust anyone so the easier we are too control.

[Geordie]

Not a lot to be proud of anymore is there? Our country that my grandparents offered their lives for is being sold out beneath us!
I often wonder if either of them would have fought for whats left of the UK these days? My son and his ilk (junior doctors) talking of having jobs waiting in Oz and NZ after they get through the wringer that we put our junior doctors through. Better hours, less hassle, Respected by the government, etc etc.....Our NHS is being eroded by this viscous tory bunch of tossers. Boils my piss!

[GrandadG]

Nothing worse than having your piss boiled mate
Good to hear your "voice" again Gordon

[Timmytree]

Winston Churchill said this about Europe and I think he hit the nail.

"We have our own dream and our own task. We are with Europe, but not of it. We are linked but not combined. We are interested and associated but not absorbed. If Britain must choose between Europe and the open sea, she must always choose the open sea.”

He died in 1965 the year I was born...50 years ago. Certainly a told you so moment.

BBF

As usual, the old man was right with his words. The channel tunnel was a mistake, it should have a downhill gradient to France with all English sewers feeding it!

[Mason]

When an island nation no longer has sufficient farm land to grow food for its population, then it is heading for trouble. It is our most valuable asset and is being eroded by the pressure for yet more housing and industrial use in the "creation " of jobs, mostly to manufacture ephemeral goods.
In a time when we are called upon to cut back, the Government proposes billions to be spent on a high speed railway to shave 30 minutes off a trip that services London's commuter workforce.
The NHS is being allowed to fall into disarray and has become a cash cow for all the private sector services that are milking it dry, in a process that will see it fail, in favour of private medical insurance.
Despite who is in power the ship keeps sailing in the same direction. Maggie Thatcher's greatest triumph, New Labour, offered a fleeting hope, but spend spend Tony ensured it was only fleeting.
But despite all this and a lot more, we do live in a stable country and that's worth protecting.

[Blackbaronfish]

When an island nation no longer has sufficient farm land to grow food for its population, then it is heading for trouble. It is our most valuable asset and is being eroded by the pressure for yet more housing and industrial use in the "creation " of jobs, mostly to manufacture ephemeral goods.
In a time when we are called upon to cut back, the Government proposes billions to be spent on a high speed railway to shave 30 minutes off a trip that services London's commuter workforce.
The NHS is being allowed to fall into disarray and has become a cash cow for all the private sector services that are milking it dry, in a process that will see it fail, in favour of private medical insurance.
Despite who is in power the ship keeps sailing in the same direction. Maggie Thatcher's greatest triumph, New Labour, offered a fleeting hope, but spend spend Tony ensured it was only fleeting.
But despite all this and a lot more, we do live in a stable country and that's worth protecting.

and the horse has bolted

BBF

[Big Dog]

Not a lot to be proud of anymore is there? Our country that my grandparents offered their lives for is being sold out beneath us!
I often wonder if either of them would have fought for whats left of the UK these days? My son and his ilk (junior doctors) talking of having jobs waiting in Oz and NZ after they get through the wringer that we put our junior doctors through. Better hours, less hassle, Respected by the government, etc etc.....Our NHS is being eroded by this viscous tory bunch of tossers. Boils my piss!

This just about sums it up for me too. I served this Country for 30 years, as an Airborne then Elite soldier I 'attended' a couple of what one may term as 'shooting wars' and after my military service came to an end, I served in other Government services. What we have now is not the Nation that I served to protect and build. I can honestly say that would not serve today to protect the Country we have now. Thanks to our politicians, this Country is rubbish.

To be honest, we can't foist all the blame on the current Conservative Government, the wasters in the last Coalition Government weren't able to organise a pi$$ up in a brewery and Tony Blair's Government did huge amounts of damage when they were in power. One of the issues for some years now is that most of our front bench Politicians are extremely rich - I believe that 70% of the current Cabinet are multi millionaires. As such, they do not and will never have any idea of what it is like to be an ordinary man/woman on the ground trying to make ends meet while trying to get the healthcare and education they need and are entitled to from the State. In Government Service we had an adage that is as true today as it was then - "You know when a Politician is lying, his lips are moving"!!

[FLASHMAN]

racism is a word made up by the socialist to halt discussion on immigration. it used to be known as, bigotry or prejudice. but those words didn't have the impact of 'racist' which implies a hatred of other races. my view is racism is a normal human reaction to new people moving into a community/village etc. and is quite healthy. what is bad though is persecution for being different. calling a pole a pole or a gypsy a pikey of French a frog isn't in my opinion persecution. I'm a anglo pole and have been called all kinds of stuff...never bothered me much, I certainly don't think it should be a crime. but, when I was harassed and persecuted at a 'sporting club' because a certain cretin didn't like poles, then that was different and should be a crime, but of persecution not so called racism. that's my tuppence worth, lol