S400 pellet on pellet groupings fact or fiction ?

[Ken G]

Only been shooting air rifles since December last year, up to now only at indoor 20m range, I have an S400 and HW97, I can achieve 5 pellet groupings at 5p size with both guns, my question, is this the best I can expect or can I look to get the ultimate (currently not achievable) pellet on pellet groups and if this is feasible any tips on achieving it. I have tried numerous different .177 pellets and found AA field 4.52 and JSB exacts to be the best with very little to choose between them.
Look forward to your replies.

[Geordie]

At 20M, single hole, or "pellet on pellet" groups are very much achievable.
It's an old cliche, but practice practice practice, is deffo the way to go.

[eddie666]

me and my 14 year old son use the labels from a label gun at 90ft and shoot the 88 out with springers, its just getting the right hold and practice ,

[eddie666]

the labels are bright red , £199 for 5 rolls = 5000 labels free post . a label gun is £4.99, or just use the labels blank by hand,

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Price-Gun-Lab ... 3cd821aad1

[james79]

At 20 yards pellet on pellet is very much achievable from any of the aa pcps (if you try bench rested its not a problem) . To achieve it free hand, or even supported standing etc, is a different matter but the age old adage of "practice, practice, practice" pays dividends. Keep at it and you will get there.
(As a postscript, if they're new guns you have cleaned the factory gunk out the barrel haven't you?)

[Raj]

Shame about the old forum not being to hand but there were a few pictures of lead lumps from members who had stacked the pellets on top of each other ..... quite artistic

[gary martin]

it can be done. these things take time. its not just about shooting hundreds of rounds down range, but good quality practice. shoot a set a set amount rest etc, put the rifle down repeat.

[eddie666]

it can be done. these things take time. its not just about shooting hundreds of rounds down range, but good quality practice. shoot a set a set amount rest etc, put the rifle down repeat.

very good point, let your rifle rest to let every thing in side to cool down , as friction will make things hot , things get expanded and seals get softer ,

thats why springers are so hard to get top consistency,
also give your eye a rest every few mins , walk about a bit to get your body circulating if you are on a bench rest,
then start shooting again with the same hold again and again,
shoot / rest / cooling / walk

[eddie666]

i do not know if any one else dose this , but i always fire three shots at the ground just before i start on the targets to warm the rifle up a bit inside ( talking springers ) the only thing that will get hot on a pcp is the barrel ,

[Ken G]

Thanks for the replies will put your suggestions into practise, knowing that single pellet hole groupings are definitely achievable gives me a goal to strive for, looking forward to getting there.