stokie 1 wrote:Hi folks. is the cylinder and barrel the same length on the tdr as on the 410k, also how many shots from a .177 and from a .22. Thanks.
My .177 TDR gets about 60, 65, full power usable shots... you could push a few more shots but waste of time really.
The .177 TDR has the same size cylinder as the s410 carbine. it used to be a smaller cylinder, people were not happy so AA fitted the s410 carbine cylinder for more shots on the .177 model.
I believe the .22 has the smaller cylinder although can achieve about 70,75 shots... full power shots.
I use the best fittings day tripper Mini 500cc top up bottle this gives just over 2 fills for my .177 TDR, superb as I get about 200+ shots with full cylinder on the TDR and 500cc bottle which is enough for target shooting and plinking session...
The best fittings portable Mini 500cc day tripper top up bottle....
http://www.bestfittings.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=557The best fittings day tripper portable bottle is really handy as I can take it ether out in the field or too the range allowing 2 fills for my pcps along with their own on board cylinders full and then use my springer.
Much easier than taking the very heavy dive bottle also if your really stuck for air I fill the 500cc bottle with the hand pump...

and this gives me 2 fills for the range rather than carrying loads of gear.
To be totally honest, I would rather have the TDR and the 500cc day tripper bottle than a full size bottle rifle because, it is still a smaller package when taken down in correct type case with back-pack straps. awesome peace of kit. besides, full size bottle rifles have the buddy bottle stock on the end of the stock which upsets the balance of the rifle for standing shots, and a big lump to carry around.