Land owners permission Cards Deleted

[maddoghutty]

I have deleted these off has i should not have posted them without saying you have to member of the BASC for anyone to go shooting on private land and have the owners permission in place i just saw them on another site and pimped them up abit has they where abit bland i have now read the basc rules through now and this is for a shooters insurance for going shooting on private property doing a job like vermin control so i have deleted from my account so sorry guys i do apologize i should of read the rules properly first. So go here for any information about air gun shooting and information here is a link http://basc.org.uk/

[neil]

there is no requirement to be a member of basc nor is it compulsory to have insurance (but the insurance bit is advisable), permission of the landowner is a must though, some advise having that in writing but again, that's not compulsory, some of that sounds like sales b/s

[Katzenjammer]

So much easier to have written permission though and no real hardship for either party to draw something up. Carrying that jointly signed permission or a copy or having easy access to it if you are unfortunate enough to be stopped by any authority makes it simpler to demonstrate your right to be there. Also it saves hassle of disturbing your land owner in certain circumstances though most competent officers would cross check with a landowner. Even though they are only sub 12 ft lbs air rifles I cannot see why anyone would not want written permission to cover themselves. Likewise with insurance in an increasingly litigious society.

Clearly for firearms, shotguns and FAC airguns you need written permission. I believe airgunners need to get into the same mindset.
This from the Cleveland Police website but they all demand the same.
"If you do not own the land or the shooting rights to the land on which you intend to shoot, please enclose a copy of your authority to shoot over a separate area of land e.g. if you have permission to shoot a .22 rifle on one area and use a .270 for shooting deer elsewhere, you will need to produce two authorities."

And this from the Home Office Guidance on Licensing
13.4 Apart from having a “good reason” etc etc.......... The police will be expected to make reasonable inquiries to verify the applicant’s “good reason” for the possession of firearms. This may include:
i. a request for written authorities where relevant (and possible).
ii. verification of the likelihood of the quarry species being present.
iii. the suitability of land for the firearms requested commensurate with the
applicant’s experience.
iv. their authority to shoot on the land; and.
v. in the case of target shooters, verification of club membership and shooting activities

[neil]

So much easier to have written permission though and no real hardship for either party to draw something up. Carrying that jointly signed permission or a copy or having easy access to it if you are unfortunate enough to be stopped by any authority makes it simpler to demonstrate your right to be there. Also it saves hassle of disturbing your land owner in certain circumstances though most competent officers would cross check with a landowner. Even though they are only sub 12 ft lbs air rifles I cannot see why anyone would not want written permission to cover themselves. Likewise with insurance in an increasingly litigious society.

Clearly for firearms, shotguns and FAC airguns you need written permission. I believe airgunners need to get into the same mindset.
This from the Cleveland Police website but they all demand the same.
"If you do not own the land or the shooting rights to the land on which you intend to shoot, please enclose a copy of your authority to shoot over a separate area of land e.g. if you have permission to shoot a .22 rifle on one area and use a .270 for shooting deer elsewhere, you will need to produce two authorities."

And this from the Home Office Guidance on Licensing
13.4 Apart from having a “good reason” etc etc.......... The police will be expected to make reasonable inquiries to verify the applicant’s “good reason” for the possession of firearms. This may include:
i. a request for written authorities where relevant (and possible).
ii. verification of the likelihood of the quarry species being present.
iii. the suitability of land for the firearms requested commensurate with the
applicant’s experience.
iv. their authority to shoot on the land; and.
v. in the case of target shooters, verification of club membership and shooting activities

that bit from Cleveland police applies to FAC, not sub 12 air rifles, and the more you let them demand with no justification the more their going to demand until we all just pack up and stay home

[james79]

So much easier to have written permission though and no real hardship for either party to draw something up. Carrying that jointly signed permission or a copy or having easy access to it if you are unfortunate enough to be stopped by any authority makes it simpler to demonstrate your right to be there. Also it saves hassle of disturbing your land owner in certain circumstances though most competent officers would cross check with a landowner. Even though they are only sub 12 ft lbs air rifles I cannot see why anyone would not want written permission to cover themselves. Likewise with insurance in an increasingly litigious society.

Clearly for firearms, shotguns and FAC airguns you need written permission. I believe airgunners need to get into the same mindset.
This from the Cleveland Police website but they all demand the same.
"If you do not own the land or the shooting rights to the land on which you intend to shoot, please enclose a copy of your authority to shoot over a separate area of land e.g. if you have permission to shoot a .22 rifle on one area and use a .270 for shooting deer elsewhere, you will need to produce two authorities."

And this from the Home Office Guidance on Licensing
13.4 Apart from having a “good reason” etc etc.......... The police will be expected to make reasonable inquiries to verify the applicant’s “good reason” for the possession of firearms. This may include:
i. a request for written authorities where relevant (and possible).
ii. verification of the likelihood of the quarry species being present.
iii. the suitability of land for the firearms requested commensurate with the
applicant’s experience.
iv. their authority to shoot on the land; and.
v. in the case of target shooters, verification of club membership and shooting activities

that bit from Cleveland police applies to FAC, not sub 12 air rifles, and the more you let them demand with no justification the more their going to demand until we all just pack up and stay home

I think, to be fair, KJ did say as much

[Katzenjammer]

Thank you James I did, but on reread perhaps a tad clumsily. Personally licensing wouldn't worry me, I've been through all the hoops anyway with a clean bill of health but realise many airgunners might not make the grade.